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Moore fires another volley at Bush 2.0
Published on August 28, 2004 By thatoneguyinslc In Democrat
I saw this today, and thought i would post the link and open up yet another discussion (probably more like a screaming match).

Link

I should say for the record... I don't always agree with Michael Moore, but he makes a few good points here.

Let the games.....BEGIN!!

Thanks for reading,

thatoneguyinslc


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on Aug 28, 2004
For a fat, hairy slob of a man, he sure can write. Good read, interesting points. Thanks for sharing this with us.
on Aug 28, 2004
i couldn't agree more Wahine!
on Aug 28, 2004
It's too bad Bush will only hear of the letter secondhand, I wonder if he'll even publicly respond to it.
on Aug 28, 2004
I doubt he will...Remember our president doesn't even read newspapers. And since Al Gore invented the internet he probably doesn't surf....
on Aug 28, 2004

I wonder if the families of all the dead soldiers Moore rides on appreciates him waving the bloody shirt to further his career. 


Moore isn't an activist, he is P.T. Barnum, enjoying his well-earned seat in the Presidential box at the DNC.  No doubt this "letter" will garner him a bit more publicity before his TWO other books come out before the election...


 

on Aug 28, 2004
In a comic and entertanment point of view its funny to me too. Micheal Moore has always been good at satire and good editing. But in my opinion this may wind up hurting Kerry more then helping.

My Two Cents

PS: thatoneguyinslc I loved that face Icon.
on Aug 28, 2004
Michael is a talented, artistic, well spoken and very funny director....of fiction. He makes excellent movies, but they are just that, entertaining movies, not the fact filled documentaries he claims them to be.

They are heavily biased left wing propaganda, not mentioning the blatant sentsationalism that he at one time will criticize acerbically, then at another use and abuse with all the melodrama of a Hollywood diva.

Michael Moore's works are well made, but dangerous in that people take them for the de facto truth, simply because he is warm, funny and charismatic.
on Aug 29, 2004

ANNOUNCER: "Mr. Kerry's biggest supporter, Sen. Max Cleland, claims to have lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam. But he still has one arm! How did that happen? One word: Cowardice. When duty called, he was unwilling to give his last limb. Is that the type of selfishness you want hanging out in the White House? We think not. Vote for the man who would be willing to give America his right frontal lobe. Vote Bush."


Great satire.

on Aug 29, 2004
Michael Moore's works are well made, but dangerous in that people take them for the de facto truth, simply because he is warm, funny and charismatic
Didn't most of us, including the congress, take the cause for war as defacto truth?--far more dangerous.
on Aug 29, 2004
I wonder if the families of all the dead soldiers Moore rides on appreciates him waving the bloody shirt to further his career.


Prolly not Baker, But then again the same thing could be said about GWB using Iraq as a focus of his re-election campaign

He makes excellent movies, but they are just that, entertaining movies, not the fact filled documentaries he claims them to be.


Yep.. I agree completely, but there is some truth in what he says, you just gotta take a grain of salt with him

Vote for the man who would be willing to give America his right frontal lobe. Vote Bush."


I agree. That one cracked me up


Michael Moore has always been good at satire


I agree. Some of the stuff he comes up with is funny, some of it is offensive ,and some of it is provocative. That's why he's a good filmaker. But like i said earlier, i do not always agree with him, or his style.
I liked his letter because it's the truth in one particular sense. Kerry volunteered to go to war, Bush 2.0 volunteered to do tap hits with his frat brothers instead.

on Aug 29, 2004
"Kerry volunteered to go to war, Bush 2.0 volunteered to do tap hits with his frat brothers instead."


As I said in a recent blog, frat antics give propagandists little to work with outside the puritanical US. Someone lauding his own heroics and brandishing his medals from a war wherein he burned villages and openly admitted to violating the Geneva convention, though... I expect if Kerry wins what you will see from North Korea and Iran will make the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth look tame.



on Aug 29, 2004
As I said in a recent blog, frat antics give propagandists little to work with outside the puritanical US.


I didn't see your other blog, Baker Street, which may explain my misunderstanding here, but I don't get your point. I thought that Moore is just mocking the Bushies for staying home for frat fun and then throwing mud at those who served -- satire and simplification, I know, but I don't get what your are saying at all.
on Aug 29, 2004
I haven't seen Bush throw mud at anyone that served. I personally think it is humorous that Moore, Dean, Clark, and the rest are out openly lying about what the President said, calling the President's own service into question, while condemning people for calling Kerry's service into question.

In the end, all the "service" that Kerry is proud of is going to come back and bite him. His accomplishments in Vietnam won't be seen as heroic by the world, they'll be seen as he described them, gross injustice and cruetly.

Moore and the rest can make fun of Bush all they want, but I'd rather vote for someone who partied his way through Vietnam than someone who burned villages and killed livestock.

I just can't see how someone like Moore can look at what Bush did, then point to what Kerry was doing in Vietnam and pretend Kerry was the morally correct one.

on Aug 29, 2004
I haven't seen Bush throw mud at anyone that served.


That's because he has his pitbull Karl Rove to do it for him. Well....Him and the swifties. And let's not forget about Bob "My wounds are better than yours" Dole either!

As I said in a recent blog, frat antics give propagandists little to work with outside the puritanical US. Someone lauding his own heroics and brandishing his medals from a war wherein he burned villages and openly admitted to violating the Geneva convention, though


You actually THINK that Kerry is the only american who participated in violating the Geneva Convention during Vietnam? Duuuuude! Wake up! Ever hear of the My Lai Massacre? Or more recently... Abu Garaib? And what about some of the stuff that has occurred in our own country? The downwinders during the 50's. They have dropped like flies in Utah, Nevada, and Arizona due to our Military's atomic weapons testing. So don't act as if the military has not had a history of this in the past.

but I'd rather vote for someone who partied his way through Vietnam than someone who burned villages and killed livestock.


And i would rather vote for a guy who knows how ugly war can be before he sends our troops to fight, rather than some yuppie cowboy who had his daddy protect him, and has no idea what its like to be in the line of fire.

Bush has no idea what its like to watch people die in front of him. John Kerry does!
on Aug 29, 2004
"That's because he has his pitbull Karl Rove to do it for him. Well....Him and the swifties. And let's not forget about Bob "My wounds are better than yours" Dole either!"


For every Bush supporter there is a Kerry supporter doing the same job. In my opinion Kerry has a much more prolific soft-money machine at work.

"You actually THINK that Kerry is the only american who participated in violating the Geneva Convention during Vietnam? "


He'll be the only one holding the office of President. What will the world think of a man who volunteered to go, came back and openly condemned what he and others did, and then called it heroism 30 years later.

"Bush has no idea what its like to watch people die in front of him. John Kerry does!"


I think many nations that hate us will make points about the people Kerry saw die in front of him, the villages that were burned, etc. Say what you like, but this will be the first time we have elected a President that has admitted to commiting "atrocities".

Hypocritical. People here continue to question Bush's service while at the same time whining about people questioning Kerry's service. If the Kerry side wants to keep the fire on the service issue, which Moore, Dean, Clark, and their handlers obviously do, I think it will go much harder for Kerry than Bush. Count on it, actually.
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