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Slip sliding away
Bush keeps sinking
Published on August 5, 2005 By
thatoneguyinslc
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US Domestic
New poll numbers were published today showing that dubya's approval ratings are dropping yet again.
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His overall job approval rating is at 42%. There have been previous presidents with lower scores (Nixon and Truman during their last terms for example). But the telling sign is his approval rating on his handling of the Iraq war. His rating in this department has slipped to a Johnson-like 38%.
I think the chickens are finally coming home to roost on poor dubya. His solution? Going on yet another vacation in Crawford.
Thanks for reading,
thatoneguyinslc
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Island Dog
on Aug 05, 2005
If you work, you should get a vacation. But dubya has spent more time on vacation than any other president. Look it up. Also, the AP is pretty fair when it comes to their polling. They go way out of their way to have balance in their surveys. It's not like this is a MoveOn.org poll.
You just totally ignored what I said. Presidents don't take real vacations like other people. No matter where or what the President is doing he is still on the job. Even when he's at his ranch, he still has his meetings, briefings, and gets work done. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. However, the left still has no agenda or ideas so this is what they choose to complain about.
I have looked at the AP and they are one of most biased new organizations. I can't find the articles but I remember before Bush was re-elected there were people from the MSM who were doing just what I said. They would poll more democrats just to get the percentage they were looking for. But as I constantly tell people like col, polls are unreliable. Most polls said Kerry was going to beat Bush. A poll of 1000 Americans does not accurately represent the country.
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Lee1776
on Aug 05, 2005
There have been previous presidents with lower scores (Nixon and Truman during their last terms for example).
You do know that while Truman was in office his rating was very low, but now he is placed seventh as the best President.
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All the great presidents are the ones who made the hard decisions. Lincoln also had low approval rating, and he is rated third.
The question will be if the Democrats will be able to produce a good candidate in 2008. Many Republicans that I know would love to see another Kerry choice. IMO Governor Richardson of Arizona would be a good candidate. But who ever the Republicans run will not be stuck with Bush's legacy because of the following reasons:
1. The VP will not be running, so the Gore/Clinton stigma will not be there.
2. While the wars in Iraq maybe unpopular, all indications show that the general public knows that it is something that must be completed. So any pro-war Republican will not be dinged for supporting actions there.
IMO it will be the great race for the center in the 2008 election and if one of the parties decides not to run for the center it will lose.
The radical left has finally started to be ignored by the middle, but unfortunately they did gain many of the key funding positions in the DNC. We will have to see if that will affect the primaries.
As for the Republicans I believe the front runners at this time are more moderate, but that may not help much if there is no clear primary leader by the time that the religious South gets their chance to vote. That will determine if Bush's legacy will hurt the next candidate, if he/she is a person of socially religious politics.
But as for rating affecting Bush..... Who cares? He will just be as dead politically as Clinton is now, in three years.
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Daiwa
on Aug 05, 2005
Minor correction, Lee -
Bill Richardson is governor of New Mexico. We have a socialist governor here - Napolitano.
Cheers,
Daiwa
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Lee1776
on Aug 05, 2005
Bill Richardson is governor of New Mexico. We have a socialist governor here - Napolitano.
Sorry to here about the socialist Daiwa and I had remembered my mistake half-way to a friends house, Ooops.
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kingbee
on Aug 05, 2005
1. The VP will not be running, so the Gore/Clinton stigma will not be there
consider the following:
1. cheney said he wasn't gonna run for vp in 2000. he was put in charge of selecting a vp candidate. after reviewing all the options, guess what? none seemed like a better choice than himself.
2. after seeing how the momentum of the reagan administration quickly became the entropy of the first bush term, aren't yall a lil concerned about jeb's ability to keep things movin in the right direction? he's too much like his ol man. who else can you depend on not to be swayed off course? besides cheney.
3. isn't cheney's choice for the 2008 candidate gonna be given a lotta weight?
4.i know he's on record as saying he won't run. as judge milian says, i wouldn't believe him if his tongue was notarized.
2. While the wars in Iraq maybe unpopular, all indications show that the general public knows that it is something that must be completed. So any pro-war Republican will not be dinged for supporting actions there.
yeah we gotta complete it. but that don't mean the public hasnt finally begun to see it never had to happen the way it did. an anti-war longshot iraq war veteran. running as a democrat in an ohio district that went 2 to 1 for bush in 2004, lost by 4% in a special election this week. the guy referred to bush as a 'chicken hawk' in his campaign. pro-war republicans may wind up gettin the hard ding they so richly deserve.
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thatoneguyinslc
on Aug 06, 2005
When you have had the job for five years, and have spent about one year of it on vacation...Well yeah i think it's worth mention.
I love how some of you can only make an issue out of the vacation thing, when I only mentioned it in passing. The meat of the issue is the poll numbers. You folks are all about the poll numbers when things are going good for dubya. When his numbers flag, all of a sudden they mean bupkis. Others say, "It's biased, the evil left wing media is cooking the numbers!" Or, "The AP is controlled by the Liberals". What a load. I'll bet if Fox News conducted a poll they would show similar numbers. The guy is not living up to his own hype folks. Face it. It's like that scene in the Wizard of Oz when the curtain gets pulled back. The American public is beginning to see through the smoke and mirrors.
And they ain't happy with what they are seeing.
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Dr Guy
on Aug 06, 2005
consider the following:
1. cheney said he wasn't gonna run for vp in 2000. he was put in charge of selecting a vp candidate. after reviewing all the options, guess what? none seemed like a better choice than himself.
2. after seeing how the momentum of the reagan administration quickly became the entropy of the first bush term, aren't yall a lil concerned about jeb's ability to keep things movin in the right direction? he's too much like his ol man. who else can you depend on not to be swayed off course? besides cheney.
3. isn't cheney's choice for the 2008 candidate gonna be given a lotta weight?
4.i know he's on record as saying he won't run. as judge milian says, i wouldn't believe him if his tongue was notarized.
There is a bonus if Cheney runs. Helen Thomas will die!
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kingbee
on Aug 06, 2005
Helen Thomas will die!
if novak doesnt get the chief justice seat, maybe he can be nominated to fill her ummmmmm shoes?
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thatoneguyinslc
on Aug 06, 2005
Helen could kick Dick's ass in a bar room brawl. Or she could just disrobe and give him another heart attack. Either way...She could take him!
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Dr Guy
on Aug 06, 2005
if novak doesnt get the chief justice seat, maybe he can be nominated to fill her ummmmmm shoes?
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drmiler
on Aug 08, 2005
When you have had the job for five years, and have spent about one year of it on vacation...Well yeah i think it's worth mention.
You are still missing the point. You call it a vacation? Go do a search on his itinerary for his supposed vacation.
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Moderateman
on Aug 08, 2005
why is there no whining about the entire congress taking a vacation?
How about the entire supreme court?
I guess crying is only allowed when somehow it can show President Bush is...... ummmmmmmm human?
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Myrrander
on Aug 08, 2005
I think we should also note that most second term presidents see their approval ratings slide at this point...with the GOP '08 race wide open, prominent Republicans have to start making waves within the party and this is bound to create confusion and thus a dip in numbers...and also, Bush is a horrible schmuck. But this fits the usual trend of a 2 termer.
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thatoneguyinslc
on Aug 08, 2005
Myr brings up a good point here folks.
Mod,
I feel the same way about these extended vacations when the Congress takes them.
Allow me to clarify one last time for all of you. It's not the fact that he takes a lot of time off. He does do some work out in Crawford. It's a tough job. I just think that with everything that happened last week in Iraq, He picked a bad time to leave town. It gives the appearance to the everyday Joe that he could give a flying f**k about what is going on during his little war.
As far as poll numbers and the size of the cross section go. It's not just the AP poll that is reflecting the slide. All the polls that i have seen are reflecting a drop in both his overall rating, and his rating on the war in Iraq. If it was one particular poll that came from a group with liberal leanings, i wouldn't have written this article.
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shadesofgrey
on Aug 08, 2005
I feel the same way about these extended vacations when the Congress takes them
Congress being in recess is not the same as the Senators and Congressman being on vacation. They are back in their districts and states working out of their local offices, but they certainly are not on vacation.
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